Reflective Safety Lines

[Lawdwaz]

I've got a few of these up and man are they great.  A recent comment on bright eyes in the scouting thread reminded me of a photo I took earlier in the archery season. These things can be spotted from a LONG ways off. 

Seems they have some reflective (magic beans) tape woven through the line and prusik hitch.  They could even be a lifesaver if you needed a rescue at night, for what it's worth.

 

Edited December 7, 2022 by Lawdwaz

[nywaw]

HSS reflective lifelines

https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/hunter-safety-system-3-pack-treestand-lifeline

[Lawdwaz]

That's them.

[Don_C]

I've never heard of them before. That's great!!!

[Teamhoyt]

I've got a couple. Love them. Although the 1st morning I saw them scared the crap out of me. WTF is that lmao

[Belo]

$109 dollary doos!? holy shit

 

[Nomad]

Be hard to buy and make three 28 footers with quality carabiners for that . Although I have my doubts about that rope , I’m sure it’s capable but they rate it at 300#, recuse ropes tensile strength run into a several thousand ., shock loads I’m not sure of anymore .

They say 300# because that’s what their harness is rated at , which brings up another point hunting harnesses,well suck . 

 

[The Back 40]

I agree @Nomad, a quality 100' length of 7/16" kernmantle rope will cost you about $140, plus the cost of the prusik loops and the rated carabiners would far outweigh the cost of those kits. 

and the harnesses are not great, but they could save your life.

[Nomad]

1 hour ago, The Back 40 said:

I agree @Nomad, a quality 100' length of 7/16" kernmantle rope will cost you about $140, plus the cost of the prusik loops and the rated carabiners would far outweigh the cost of those kits. 

and the harnesses are not great, but they could save your life.

I’m in complete agreement ,but if you’ve worn recuse harnesses or climbers ones you’d see a vast improvement. Here’s a couple photos I took at a rescue class I took, and wrote an article for a magazine about it . 

Guys just sitting there in complete comfort, while wearing tons  of gear , hang from a hunting harness , I’ve done that as I believe in testing my equipment, they suck balls ,ride way up are painfully , block access to pockets . They may prevent a fall, which is why I wear them , but you’ve got a bit of work ahead of you .

I carry a closed loop , to tie a lower Prusik for my foot so I can then inchworm up or down . One of the larger loops in the photo .

[The Back 40]

1 hour ago, Nomad said:

I’m in complete agreement ,but if you’ve worn recuse harnesses or climbers ones you’d see a vast improvement. Here’s a couple photos I took at a rescue class I took, and wrote an article for a magazine about it . 

Guys just sitting there in complete comfort, while wearing tons  of gear , hang from a hunting harness , I’ve done that as I believe in testing my equipment, they suck balls ,ride way up are painfully , block access to pockets . They may prevent a fall, which is why I wear them , but you’ve got a bit of work ahead of you .

I carry a closed loop , to tie a lower Prusik for my foot so I can then inchworm up or down . One of the larger loops in the photo .

There is big difference between being in suspension from a ventral attachment point, like the ones in your pictures and hanging from a back D-ring.

I teach rope rescue for the tower industry and I can assure you that even in our full body harnesses, hanging from your back sucks. I was literally demonstrating it yesterday to a class of new climbers.

I actually teach the same technique using a prusik loop for self rescue. The other method is a foot wrap or work to get back to a climbing face.

[Lawdwaz]

41 minutes ago, The Back 40 said:

There is big difference between being in suspension from a ventral attachment point, like the ones in your pictures and hanging from a back D-ring.

I teach rope rescue for the tower industry and I can assure you that even in our full body harnesses, hanging from your back sucks. I was literally demonstrating it yesterday to a class of new climbers.

I actually teach the same technique using a prusik loop for self rescue. The other method is a foot wrap or work to get back to a climbing face.

Keep talking…….I like where this is going.   
 

Let’s talk harnesses.    What do the experts here use and recommend??

Im using a DBI Sala harness that I’ve had AND used religiously for 23 years.   It’s never been exposed to sunlight, high temperatures or tested in a fall.   Is it still ok?

[paula]

6 hours ago, Belo said:

$109 dollary doos!? holy shit

 

That is for  3. 

I want one

Edited December 8, 2022 by paula

[The Back 40]

1 hour ago, Lawdwaz said:

Keep talking…….I like where this is going.   
 

Let’s talk harnesses.    What do the experts here use and recommend??

Im using a DBI Sala harness that I’ve had AND used religiously for 23 years.   It’s never been exposed to sunlight, high temperatures or tested in a fall.   Is it still ok?

DBI makes a good harnesses. We use DBI SALA NEX Tower harnesses. The older ones had a "recommend" use life of 5 years but that has changed. Now they recommend use based on inspection results. ANSI changed it in 2012. 

That being said 23 years is a long time. The webbing (polyester) can start to get brittle but most of that is a result of UV exposure and you said it has never been in the sun.

I personally would think about retiring it and look at some of the new ones.

Ours have integrated boatswains seats and almost all of the hardware is aluminum. More comfort, less weight and no corrosion.

[Lawdwaz]

14 minutes ago, The Back 40 said:

DBI makes a good harnesses. We use DBI SALA NEX Tower harnesses. The older ones had a "recommend" use life of 5 years but that has changed. Now they recommend use based on inspection results. ANSI changed it in 2012. 

That being said 23 years is a long time. The webbing (polyester) can start to get brittle but most of that is a result of UV exposure and you said it has never been in the sun.

I personally would think about retiring it and look at some of the new ones.

Ours have integrated boatswains seats and almost all of the hardware is aluminum. More comfort, less weight and no corrosion.

Yes, mine has a yellow tag with a bunch of warnings but I quit looking at it years ago.  LOL

I'll look into a new DBI after things slowdown........

I still would like to hear what others are using.

[The Back 40]

I have different styles depending on the use.

For rope access and tree work i wear a Petzl Avao. At some point i will be moving into a new Petzl Astro or the CMC Atom.

For tower work I use DBI. Their Tower harness is great, but their rope access harness sucks. 

Their is a ton of great gear out there. We order our equipment from GME Supply, they carry just about everything for our industry.