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December 7, 1941


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20 minutes ago, mowin said:

Sadly, this is mostly forgotten. 

Thanks for posting. 

Agreed. But what hits me harder is how quickly we have forgotten 9/11 which is something everyone here lived through in our lifetimes unlike Pearl Harbor. How dumb are we?

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9 minutes ago, Bucksnbows said:

Agreed. But what hits me harder is how quickly we have forgotten 9/11 which is something everyone here lived through in our lifetimes unlike Pearl Harbor. How dumb are we?

Sadly true. I know I haven't forgotten. I try to keep days like this in mind, and remind others. 

Those people matter.

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Pearl Harbor being an open wound still, our allied side of WWII overtook Germany, but losing Japan was still in the mindset of potentially doing a similar attack again and continue to be a menace in the Pacific that would not surrender. sooo... we atomic bombed the shit two of their major cities. tens of thousands of Japanese died. it's crazy the unbridled acts of war that Pearl Harbor is attributed to, including that event itself. If you think about it Pearl Harbor still indirectly shapes history with its causal effects today in how we set limits and conduct war. 

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My Dad joined the army just before the end of WW2.   He spent a short time in Hawaii before heading out to the Pacific.  He said the contrast of the beauty of Hawaii then what happened at Pearl Harbor was just a lot to take in.  Esp when you are heading out to war and this is the first part of it you see at 18 years old.   

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7 hours ago, The_Real_TCIII said:

Band of Brothers should be required viewing in our schools

...and the HBO mini series The Pacific.

Our schools should also be taught what the Japanese did to the Chinese, Koreans, and every other country they invaded.  They were just as brutal if not more than the Nazis. 

Not the revisionist version that we should not have dropped the A-bomb, let alone two.

 

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9 minutes ago, DoubleDose said:

...and the HBO mini series The Pacific.

Our schools should also be taught what the Japanese did to the Chinese, Koreans, and every other country they invaded.  They were just as brutal if not more than the Nazis. 

Not the revisionist version that we should not have dropped the A-bomb, let alone two.

 

Those two bombs saved the lives of millions of Americans and 10’s of millions of  Japanese.  A quick look at casualty rates from the only Japanese home territory (Okinawa) taken during that war with “conventional” weapons, is all it takes to prove that fact.   
 

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Was stationed at Hickam AFB adjacent to Pearl Harbor from 2007-2011. I did honor guard for a couple years part time and led the 2010 ceremony. Huge honor and very humbling. Met the Governor at the time Linda Lingle as well as numerous World War two survivors. I still have my honor guard uniform. 

I spoke about this on the other site previously but one of the saddest things I ever did was a ceremony at a VA Center that was almost all World War two veterans (in Hawaii). I had to mentally checkout of that one so I could maintain my emotions. Seeing many of those men totally broken and empty was heart breaking. 

Truly the greatest generation. Always will be humbled by those ceremonies. 

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44 minutes ago, Nomad said:

My Dad was serving in the Army during WWII, when his brother and two young uncles were KIA in the same week or so . He came home under the sole survivor policy I believe . Many families paid a heavy toll .

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Wow, so sad.  My family was lucky. Dad his brother and 5 more on both my dad's and moms side made it home.  Most with purple hearts. 

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