phade Posted January 4, 2024 Posted January 4, 2024 It is here. I don’t have the link off hand but it is in play for 2024 - making it illegal to buy ammo and bring it into NY. A few outlets are starting to report it. Steuben Jerry, cervidchasers, dbHunterNY and 1 other 2 2
JohnPlav Posted January 4, 2024 Posted January 4, 2024 Seems completely unenforceable and potentially unconstitutional... but sadly, that hasn't stopped them in the past. Kayak Ken, Bucksnbows, cervidchasers and 1 other 1 3
GreeneHunter Posted January 4, 2024 Posted January 4, 2024 If " they " cannot stop 8 million illegals at the border how will "they" stop Ammo from coming into New York ? Don_C, farmer52, cervidchasers and 4 others 5 1 1
Robhuntandfish Posted January 4, 2024 Posted January 4, 2024 it will be the same for gasoline powered vehicles soon as well. Everyone says .... "i will just go to PA and buy one", sure then try to register it in NY ..... "it's pointless for humans to paint scenes of nature when they can go outside and stand in it"- Ron Swanson
Moho81 Posted January 4, 2024 Posted January 4, 2024 Ha Ha Ha Ha this is laughable. How in the world do they plan on enforcing this? Politely ask all neighboring states to ask every customer for ID? Bucksnbows, GreeneHunter and Ausable 2 1
Robhuntandfish Posted January 4, 2024 Posted January 4, 2024 4 minutes ago, GreeneHunter said: If " they " cannot stop 8 million illegals at the border how will "they" stop Ammo from coming into New York ? easily. "They" will put effort into this cause it fits "their" agenda. bushbound, GreeneHunter, Breaking Point and 1 other 4 "it's pointless for humans to paint scenes of nature when they can go outside and stand in it"- Ron Swanson
phade Posted January 4, 2024 Author Posted January 4, 2024 I’m guessing the plan is to attack the dealers and somehow find ways to litigate them across state lines. You don’t need to be right - you just need to have a war chest. As a small shop even defending a lawsuit can put you out of business cost wise. LET EM GROW and dbHunterNY 2
Bolt Action Posted January 4, 2024 Posted January 4, 2024 ^^ beat me to it.. similar to how shops across state lines will only sell you NY legal firearms even though they'll sell other (non NY compliant) items to residents. They ask for an ID. if it's NY, you get one set of inventory to shop. If it's not NY, you get a different set of inventory to shop.
Spaceman Spiff Posted January 4, 2024 Posted January 4, 2024 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bolt Action said: ^^ beat me to it.. similar to how shops across state lines will only sell you NY legal firearms even though they'll sell other (non NY compliant) items to residents. They ask for an ID. if it's NY, you get one set of inventory to shop. If it's not NY, you get a different set of inventory to shop. Go to Florida, they sell you whatever they have. This is a pathetic joke that will not be enforced. This country isn’t that big. Pretty easy to drive to Kentucky or WV. Edited January 4, 2024 by Spaceman Spiff Nomad 1
Bucksnbows Posted January 4, 2024 Posted January 4, 2024 NY cannot do anything to out of state shops selling ammo. I don’t need to show my ID in PA, for example. PA isn’t suddenly going to ask a New Yorker for his/her ID before selling them ammo because no PA or federal law requires them to do so. This would be completely unenforceable if not also unconstitutional. As a NJ resident that hunts NY frequently, how can they stop me from using ammo I bought in NJ or any other state?? The answer is they cannot. This is just the anti 2A crowd attempting to poke a stick in our eyes. They know laws like this won’t stay in place, but they get the mileage they are looking for. Once struck down by the Courts, they’ll just come up with another unconstitutional law and repeat. grampy, Kayak Ken, ATbuckhunter and 1 other 2 2 "A sinking fly is closer to Hell" - Anonymous https://www.troutscapes.com https://nativefishcoalition.org/national-board
mowin Posted January 4, 2024 Posted January 4, 2024 So, anyone coming out of state to hunt in NY won't be to bring ammo with them... dbHunterNY 1
Robhuntandfish Posted January 4, 2024 Posted January 4, 2024 They will make the ramifications for it so aggregious that many people will not do it. Have troopers stop at gun clubs to check ammo, DEC while out in the field. Then if you get caught they will revoke your pistol permit and possibly take long rifles as it will be a felony. Don't underestimate. And as @Bucksnbowssaid if it struck down just put another lawn out there. Same as they did for pistol permits. It's the way of the future whether we like it or not. We are outnumbered in this state. Dinsdale and Steuben Jerry 1 1 "it's pointless for humans to paint scenes of nature when they can go outside and stand in it"- Ron Swanson
Larry Posted January 4, 2024 Posted January 4, 2024 Unenforceable even if passed they would have to setup border check points for entering into NY then they would have to search every car without probable cause. Next once the ammo is in the state how are they going to know where it came from or when it was bought. GreeneHunter, Bucksnbows and LET EM GROW 3
Dinsdale Posted January 4, 2024 Posted January 4, 2024 50 minutes ago, phade said: I’m guessing the plan is to attack the dealers and somehow find ways to litigate them across state lines. You don’t need to be right - you just need to have a war chest. As a small shop even defending a lawsuit can put you out of business cost wise. Ny’s attorney general will send letters to other states just like buying on the internet. One brick at a time. Anyone considering reloading should be buying supplies right now. Even if short primers, there is powder,brass,bullets,equipment available now. A few well placed contacts out of state can help in the future….. But the ban is coming. And it’ll take YEARS to settle through the courts; and dont count on it being on the side you expect. Supreme Court specifically gave warning dont infringe in the Bruen ruling and NY passed more anti laws and SC havent done squat, nor will they. None of this is ever getting repealed. GreeneHunter 1
Larry Posted January 5, 2024 Posted January 5, 2024 I'm going to keep doing what I've been doing pick up ammo when out of state and have sent to my son's house GreeneHunter and farmer52 2
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