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Been thinking about picking up an HSS rope style tree strap. I've only ever been using a web style, but between the clunky sounds and the pain in the butt set up and use while I climb, I think a rope strap will be a lot easier. My concern is safety. I know what I cinch down the web strap it's nice and tight and it's not going anywhere. I understand that the rope style works off of the prussik knot being slid up and the tension on the rope pulling down to grip it to the tree.

Curious to see what you all use and what you feel safety wise about each. Thanks!

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I didn’t even know there was a web style.  I use the rope style.  The Muddy brand is a nicer rope I think.  I bought a couple of HME brand and I don’t care for the rope, it has reflection built in and it’s rough on my hands when sliding up and down.   Also, the Muddy brand has 2 Prussik knots included, and comes with the carabiner to hook up to your vest. 

Taking them all down in the next couple of weeks to help prolong their lifespan. 

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10 minutes ago, NYRturkeycall said:

Thanks all. I'm going to pick up an HSS rope. Looks like the muddy one might be a bit on the shorter side from Amazon . 

I am definitely a fan of the rope.  I'm not sure what everyone else's opinion is?   I have the muddy rope and have thought of cutting it a little shorter. I wouldn't want anything longer.

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12 hours ago, Otto said:

I didn’t even know there was a web style.  I use the rope style.  The Muddy brand is a nicer rope I think.  I bought a couple of HME brand and I don’t care for the rope, it has reflection built in and it’s rough on my hands when sliding up and down.   Also, the Muddy brand has 2 Prussik knots included, and comes with the carabiner to hook up to your vest. 

Taking them all down in the next couple of weeks to help prolong their lifespan. 

Every tree stand sold has a safe harness included, and use the web style.

As far as the muddy rope being short, I've got two stands in trees that they won't fit around.  The HSS I've never had that issue.  

My ropes are about 4 yrs old, and they stay out yr round.  I'm going to start replacing the with a lifeline system next season. 

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It looks like some of the HSS ropes are about 28'. For about $10 dollars less, you can get a 35' Millenium rope system. The rope is 11mm. Most 11mm static kernmantle ropes have a minimum breaking strength (MBS) of about 7,000 lbs. which is 2k more than what is required for industrial fall protection.

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6 hours ago, NYRturkeycall said:

Thanks all. I'm going to pick up an HSS rope. Looks like the muddy one might be a bit on the shorter side from Amazon . 

5 hours ago, mowin said:

Every tree stand sold has a safe harness included, and use the web style.

As far as the muddy rope being short, I've got two stands in trees that they won't fit around.  The HSS I've never had that issue.  

My ropes are about 4 yrs old, and they stay out yr round.  I'm going to start replacing the with a lifeline system next season. 

this topic switched from tree straps to life lines. if you have a fixed tree stand i highly recommend a life line if you can that goes from above the stand down to wrap around the base of the tree. for tree straps though i 1000000% go with rope style that use a prussik knot.

i will say that the muddy strap is shorter but most trees it'll go around just fine. rather than over my head it goes more at shoulder height to gain length. I mostly hunt from a climber and have used both. something to consider is that the HSS strap is thicker, bulkier, and heavier than the Muddy rope strap. The HSS "sets" in place better than the muddy once you get it around the tree but i really only use the muddy now. the muddy being lighter and able to take up less space in a cargo pocket is important to me as most of the time i'm packing light going into a spot. just some things to consider and match up with your personal needs from my experience.

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9 minutes ago, dbHunterNY said:

this topic switched from tree straps to life lines. if you have a fixed tree stand i highly recommend a life line if you can that goes from above the stand down to wrap around the base of the tree. for tree straps though i 1000000% go with rope style that use a prussik knot.

i will say that the muddy strap is shorter but most trees it'll go around just fine. rather than over my head it goes more at shoulder height to gain length. I mostly hunt from a climber and have used both. something to consider is that the HSS strap is thicker, bulkier, and heavier than the Muddy rope strap. The HSS "sets" in place better than the muddy once you get it around the tree but i really only use the muddy now. the muddy being lighter and able to take up less space in a cargo pocket is important to me as most of the time i'm packing light going into a spot. just some things to consider and match up with your personal needs from my experience.

With a climber I could see most going with the muddy. If the climber fits, the muddy rope will fit.  I only use ladder stands.  As mentioned, I've got a couple on trees large enough that only he HSS will fit.  

Bottom line, I think everyone so far recommended the rope over the web style. Choose the one that fits your needs best. I'm thinking about making my own lifelines this summer. 

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2 hours ago, mowin said:

With a climber I could see most going with the muddy. If the climber fits, the muddy rope will fit.  I only use ladder stands.  As mentioned, I've got a couple on trees large enough that only he HSS will fit.  

Bottom line, I think everyone so far recommended the rope over the web style. Choose the one that fits your needs best. I'm thinking about making my own lifelines this summer. 

Let me know if you find you can make them for less than buying them for. I have tried twice and both times my sourcing of rope was more expensive than just buying them. 

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