Yep it's time in ny as well.

[G-man]

https://www.republicanherald.com/sports/outdoors/it-may-be-time-for-the-pennsylvania-game-commission-to-drop-pheasant-stocking/article_1218f026-6ab5-5cd1-8aa4-6241cb242862.html

Won't be popular opinion here  but the habitat doenst exist and it a huge cost to nys as well. For roughly 50k phesant hunters  . Monies would be better spent elsewhere where majority of hunter s and  fisherman  participate. In native game and habitat. 

..  it is non native.  If you want to hunt phesant  pay per bird at  clubs.... jmo

[Belo]

I'm on the fence here. When I lived 15 minutes from Darien it was fun to go beat the brush. Lots of guys get their dogs and kids out and it's low stress hunting at no cost minus tags and shells. Not sure what it costs the state so I guess I can't comment on that. 

[Bucksnbows]

I don’t know how NY funds its stocked pheasant program. Here in NJ, we have a $40 pheasant and quail stamp required for hunting those species on any lands the state stocks. It’s self sustaining, and our Fish & Wildlife agency is separate from our General Treasury in Trenton, so it’s not general taxpayer dollars funding it. 
 

That said, stocking non native fish and game is not sustainable and causes many other issues, especially with native fish. 

[Mike103]

Well I’m not surprised that hunters throw other hunters under the bus because it does not affect them. Hunting with hounds and bait are examples of laws that were allowed to pass because it did not effect them personally.

In the case of pheasant stocking on Long Island in particular this activity has been going on for over 50 years that I know of and has brought new hunters into the sport and kept older hunters in the field. This program is so successful that you need reservations to hunt on weekends.

I know that the bow hunters in particular would like this activity to go away on Long Island because the bow season and small games seasons overlap. 
 

Pheasant season is two months on LI and there are about 50 locations that are stocked every week. Three people are allowed in a party so that is over 300 people each weekend participating in the hunt. 
 

Not only have anti hunters introduced bills to eliminate public stocking but also bills to stop private stocking. 
 

These attacks are not about Pheasant hunting. They are about ending our way of life. 
 

 

[GRIFF-POINT]

Who knows maybe the state can throw some of the money towards more criminals or illegals like they have been or hell are terrible roads we drive on that we get hit with tolls. Wouldn't suprise me. And as far as the numbers of birds that are actually taken by hunters,  Here where I am , we are only allowed to take Cocks, NO hens!? Put and take but let the hens all go to waste?  If this is for non native I guess they will cut our Salmon stocking program worse then they already have also.  I know this is PA the article is about but if happens here just another  ✔️  why people are fleeing this state. Sorry just my rant. 

Edited April 1 by GRIFF-POINT

[GRIFF-POINT]

Tell these two there's no more birds to chase,  not going to go over very well. G- Man out of curiosity how many days a year do you spend chasing  upland birds wether they are raised or wild with man's best friend?

[Robhuntandfish]

we see them sometimes on our hunting property as they are stocked in a couple of nearby spots.  They end up as coyote food I am sure and they will hang out under the owners bird feeder quite a bit.  It cracks me up when I drive by these two places and there are trucks and trailers parked there to hunt with dogs and there are 2-3 pheasants hiding in the ditch by the road.  I see that quite often.   But I don't discourage people if thats their thing and like to hunt them, just not my thing.  I guess I would prefer the money went to something more sustainable but I guess there are lots of places NY taxpayer money goes to that concern me more. Hunting and dogs and friends is always a good combo by me. 

Edited April 1 by Robhuntandfish

[ATbuckhunter]

Rainbow trout, brown trout, chinook and coho salmon are all non native as well...maybe we should stop stocking them as well. Its a time honored tradition that lets people bird hunt where there really aren't birds. Back when I was only a deer hunter, I never complained about pheasant stocking. Just cause I don't hunt then, doesn't mean it should go away. I'll never understand people wanting to limit other peoples hunting. We stock a fraction of what PA stocks anyway, so its probably less than half the cost. Plus Cornell gets a lot of education out of the stocking program as well.

[Mike103]

Just remember they told us if we approved the NYS lottery there would be no more school tax. Lol.

[Buckmaster7600]

I’ve said for years, there should be a pheasant stamp. No different than a trout/salmon stamp.
 

Why should others pay for you to play? 
 

I’m totally fine cutting the funding for stocking non natives as long as that money went to the deficit and not added to some other stupid spending.

[Dinsdale]

49 minutes ago, Buckmaster7600 said:

I’ve said for years, there should be a pheasant stamp. No different than a trout/salmon stamp.
 

Why should others pay for you to play? 
 

I’m totally fine cutting the funding for stocking non natives as long as that money went to the deficit and not added to some other stupid spending.

DEC’s budget for a year is 6 BILLION dollars…..

All license sales are about 46 million or so…..

The money spent on fish and bird stocking is statistically an accountants rounding error in the State budget and hardly a blip compared to DEC’s.

 

If you started to count, it takes one month to count to a million. Takes 33 YEARS to count to a billion.

 

In NY, and other states, one always pays for others in one way or another.

I have never had a child; but I pay school taxes and hate kids.

Large areas of State land is purchased via funding that comes from real estate transfer taxes; most of which comes from downstate by folks who may never travel north of the Tappen Zee.

And so on……

 

 

[Buckmaster7600]

13 minutes ago, Dinsdale said:

DEC’s budget for a year is 6 BILLION dollars…..

All license sales are about 46 million or so…..

The money spent on fish and bird stocking is statistically an accountants rounding error in the State budget and hardly a blip compared to DEC’s.

 

If you started to count, it takes one month to count to a million. Takes 33 YEARS to count to a billion.

 

In NY, and other states, one always pays for others in one way or another.

I have never had a child; but I pay school taxes and hate kids.

Large areas of State land is purchased via funding that comes from real estate transfer taxes; most of which comes from downstate by folks who may never travel north of the Tappen Zee.

And so on……

 

 

Dec doesn’t only deal with hunting and fishing so I have no idea what license sales have to do with their budget. Hunting and fishing is a sliver of their work.

 

[Dinsdale]

11 minutes ago, Buckmaster7600 said:

Dec doesn’t only deal with hunting and fishing so I have no idea what license sales have to do with their budget. Hunting and fishing is a sliver of their work.

 

Exactly my point; you have no clue of the numbers if you think a stocking program affects anything at all in the overall picture of a budget (either at the DEC or State level).

Stocking is such an infinitesimal small part of the equation, it costs basically nothing in the big picture.

I added the license sales because most folks I talk to have no idea of the scale of numbers and what they mean in the larger context.

[blackbeltbill]

6 hours ago, G-man said:

https://www.republicanherald.com/sports/outdoors/it-may-be-time-for-the-pennsylvania-game-commission-to-drop-pheasant-stocking/article_1218f026-6ab5-5cd1-8aa4-6241cb242862.html

Won't be popular opinion here  but the habitat doenst exist and it a huge cost to nys as well. For roughly 50k phesant hunters  . Monies would be better spent elsewhere where majority of hunter s and  fisherman  participate. In native game and habitat. 

..  it is non native.  If you want to hunt phesant  pay per bird at  clubs.... jmo

   Damn Greg- You went over the Top this time.

   This Topic came  up every Oct on the old site with most of the Negative comment on Obliterating the DEC Pheasant Stocking Program coming from the Mayor.

    Here we go again.

 

[Mike103]

Introduction: Regulated pheasant hunting has occurred in New York since 1908. The Richard E. Reynolds state pheasant farm has been in operation since 1927. Pheasant hunting has been a tradition in New York for over 100 years. 

How much do pheasant hunters contribute? According to the latest national survey of wildlife dependent recreation; on average pheasant hunters spend $1,451 per hunter, per year. That is broken down into; $676 for non-dog hunting related expenses, and $775 dollars in hunting dog related expenses per hunter, per year. 

Reynold's Pheasant Farm supports 4 full-time jobs and 10 temporary jobs. The cost per hunter to support these jobs is between 33 cents and $1.30.

The cost of Reynold's Pheasant Farm, based on a 3 year average of 560,000 hunting licenses bought by both resident and non-resident hunters, is $1.30 per hunter. However, that does not factor in federal wildlife restoration grants. If the DEC applies for and receives a federal grant for it's pheasant program, based on the matching dollars formula, the actual cost to operate the pheasant farm is 33 cents per hunter.