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Now the new pond  is full and water is flowing thru it quickly added  450 3in to 4in golden shiners..   wet weather springs  are flowing  like a creek right  now..  

A final grade when it drys  up a bitt and then planting dam and area into clover and vetch.

Won't add game fish till  fall so shiners can get established.

 

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56 minutes ago, GreeneHunter said:

Just curious ... does anyone ever add Perch ?

I caught two last year and put them in our pond one was real fast and I hop it was eggs. 

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I’m going to put a largemouth or two in my little pond (less than 1/4 acre) this year.  That’s about all it could handle.  It’s currently  loaded with bluegills that either swam in from the creek during a flood or were brought in by ducks. 
 

Those bass will have plenty to eat for a while anyhow.  This was early February :

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Hopefully, I can bring in a few in my boat’s livewell from the upper Niagara River or Silver Lake 

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1 hour ago, G-man said:

This will probably  just be crappie..  though  I may wait and see what temps the springs keep it at and decide from there

When you get fish how does that work?  They deliver and stock?  Do you have to show them a water sample or anything?  Wondering cause I would like to stock one of the ponds on our lease but not sure how that works. And by stock I mean like a 100 of something.  

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46 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said:

When you get fish how does that work?  They deliver and stock?  Do you have to show them a water sample or anything?  Wondering cause I would like to stock one of the ponds on our lease but not sure how that works. And by stock I mean like a 100 of something.  

You can  buy local and they will  deliver for a fee or you can pick up ( lage tote with ice packs and air. .

The shiners  I got from Illinois  they have to be certified disease free from nys. 

You can buy out of town ( my hybrid stripers are from pa )and they air ship overnight for day You want delivered.

A half acre pond with an average depth of 6ft can only support 250lbs  of fish with out supplemental feeding.  There are many suggested stocking size and rates for various species , a good hatchery can tell you.  Or a in depth google search can point you in right direction. 

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FYI, I believe NYS requires a permit to do any stocking of ponds.  My experience was for grass carp to control weeds.  The permit was free and the turnaround time was short.  That was quite a few years ago though.  I don't think you can "legally" catch say bass, transport them home to your pond, and release them.  Luckily I had a close, local supplier. 

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As a professional pond builder and as the Vice Chair for the Native Fish Coalition, I’m asking everyone to obtain the free permit before you stock any fish species in any body of water. The permit process ensures no poorly thought out stocking causes issues for other species within that watershed. 
 

Our # 1 issue with fisheries is man’s use of “bucket biology” and not understanding the consequences of stocking non native fish over native fish.  I’ll step off my soapbox now. 

"A sinking fly is closer to Hell" - Anonymous 

 

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I've stocked three ponds that are on my property.  NY does require a permit but it's free and a simple one-page application.  Grass carp is a separate application but is very worthwhile if you have certain types of weeds that have become overgrown.   The grass carp are actually an invasive species and fish you get have been sterilized. 

With the permit you are required to get fish from hatcheries approved by DEC.   But the best part of permit is you have access to the DEC fish biologist whom I found to be very helpful.  The fish hatcheries are also very helpful, and the cost of fish won't break the bank.  It's very easy to make a lot of mistakes when stocking a pond.   And a few diseased fish can wipe you out.  Sizing compatible fish so they aren't food for other fish is necessary.  Introducing fish into water so they aren't stressed is also important.

One my ponds got an invasive weed that the grass carp couldn't eat.  The winter kill from oxygen depletion when weeds killed off.  Many of the larger fish in that pond went belly up that year.  Getting rid of weeds took pond treatment which requires, and that DEC permit is a nightmare.

I've really enjoyed my ponds.  I feed fish food and some of fish have learned feeding time.  The pond has become a big aquarium, and the fish are pets.  Catch and release only.

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