12/27 Breaking news from Supreme Court

[JJBat150]

12/27/2022 - The Supreme Court has ordered NY to file a brief explaining why they think their new gun control laws do not violate the Second Amendment...

Edited December 28, 2022 by JJBat150

[DoubleDose]

Very interesting.  While it appears we have a pro-2A SCOTUS, perhaps the adage "Strike while the iron is hot"  should be applied.  The Governors new laws are only the latest unconstitutional 2A laws.  NRA/GOA need to go after the entire NYS/NYC handgun scheme.  2A, and only 2A, is the single individual right that expressly states "Shall not be infringed."!

Firstly, an applicant must give (and pay for) their fingerprints.  Under what other constitutional right do you need to provide your fingerprints to the government, all levels, where they go on file?  I would bet the ACLU, if they weren't anti- 2A, could make a case that this is a violation of the 5th amendment right against self-incrimination.   The sole purpose for  wanting your prints is to use them against you in the future.  If your arrested, your prints are taken (no cost to you), and this is understandable; but treating law abiding citizens wanting to exercise a right pro-actively like a criminal is unconstitutional.  

Secondly, an applicant must pay for the process, pay for renewals, and pay for any and all permit amendments.  Keep in mind this is to exercise your RIGHT.  Under what other constitutional right do you need to pay for it to exercise it?  These payment schemes have already been deemed unconstitutional when they have been applied to other rights.  This was tried historically with voting!  Adding fees/$$ creates a barrier for the poor to exercise this right.  Likely, the ones most in need of defending themselves!  Appreciate that the Libs are on record that ethnic minorities are economically disadvantaged.   Therefore,  these fees most affect ethnic minorities making them discriminatory and racist.  Which was precisely their historical origin.

[Bucksnbows]

I love that SCOTUS has reached down so early in this process. Hoping the same for here in NJ where our politicians have done much of the same with recent laws aimed at severely limiting CC in our state. 
 

EDIT:  SCOTUS did not “reach down” as I initially said. Now that I watched that video, I have a clearer understanding of how we got to where we are with NY. 

Edited December 28, 2022 by Bucksnbows
Clarity based on video posted

[nywaw]

I just watched this on the NJ site, really good video, well explained!

[Bucksnbows]

24 minutes ago, nywaw said:

I just watched this on the NJ site, really good video, well explained!

Agreed!  Well worth the 13 plus minutes.  Had I not watched and SCOTUS denied the emergency request based on procedural issues, I would not have understood why and would think that the Court was reversing itself on some level.  Glad he explained each of those steps for me.  

Good post @JJBat150

 

[SportsmanNH]

And in the heat of the fire , NJ joins NY throwing more gas on the 2nd amendment passing laws that are worse than NY  right on top of the Supreme Court .

https://www.firearmsnews.com/editorial/nj-lawmakers-pass-further-carry-restrictions/467604?utm_source=guninpho&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=dec28

[Bucksnbows]

16 minutes ago, SportsmanNH said:

And in the heat of the fire , NJ joins NY throwing more gas on the 2nd amendment passing laws that are worse than NY  right on top of the Supreme Court .

https://www.firearmsnews.com/editorial/nj-lawmakers-pass-further-carry-restrictions/467604?utm_source=guninpho&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=dec28

Welcome to our Hell. NJ hates guns and always has. Our brand new laws plus some old ones (we can NOT carry a handgun for any reason at any time we are hunting for example) are being challenged after Bruen.  I think Thomas will prevail here in NJ given time to work through the legal process.