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If anyone else listens to podcasts - this is one of my favorites - Mossy oak game keepers.  The most recent one i was listening to is about no till food plots.  I also like the Meateater podcasts as well.  So much better than most of whats on the radio for me as I'm not a big music guy. 

https://mossyoakgamekeeper.com/podcasts/

https://www.themeateater.com/listen/meateater

"it's pointless for humans to paint scenes of nature when they can go outside and stand in it"- Ron Swanson

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I still cannot fathom how people like MeaEater stuff that much. Don’t like the fact they sold out to who they did and some of their antic/positions come off as set up to create friction like an 80/90s daytime talk show. Staged. Kenyon’s had a similar slide in quality IMO since selling out to MeatEater.  I will say that their documentary and storytelling is good but the content of podcasts and regular episodes is hard to believe in.

Working Class has kind of had that same slide but to a lesser degree with Drury. I completely understand the business angle so it is what it is. I can still listen to their regular episodes. They seem like a good group of guys.

Kenyons’s older stuff and WCB prior to 2022 is really good to listen to IMO.

The Fall Podcast with Arron is good. I was on one of his earlier episodes. He is gaining momentum and had good industry connections. The risk is the same. At some point you either need to diversify or align with a larger brand to carry the numbers long term. But for now is he doing well.

Pertnear is local to NY. Nice guys.

I traveled a lot for work 2015 through 2020, gone 1-3 weeks a month. Podcasts are nice for that travel time.

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45 minutes ago, phade said:

I still cannot fathom how people like MeaEater stuff that much. Don’t like the fact they sold out to who they did and some of their antic/positions come off as set up to create friction like an 80/90s daytime talk show. Staged. Kenyon’s had a similar slide in quality IMO since selling out to MeatEater.  I will say that their documentary and storytelling is good but the content of podcasts and regular episodes is hard to believe in.

Working Class has kind of had that same slide but to a lesser degree with Drury. I completely understand the business angle so it is what it is. I can still listen to their regular episodes. They seem like a good group of guys.

Kenyons’s older stuff and WCB prior to 2022 is really good to listen to IMO.

The Fall Podcast with Arron is good. I was on one of his earlier episodes. He is gaining momentum and had good industry connections. The risk is the same. At some point you either need to diversify or align with a larger brand to carry the numbers long term. But for now is he doing well.

Pertnear is local to NY. Nice guys.

I traveled a lot for work 2015 through 2020, gone 1-3 weeks a month. Podcasts are nice for that travel time.

have no idea who meateater sold out to and havent really run across any antics.  Lol guess i dont follow it that well.  I just like to listen to the stories and guests they have.   Listened to one the other day on Corner crossings out west that was interesting, and i liked the Das Boat series.   Im not big on the Drurys though. Tired of the deercast push every 12 seconds and all i ever have seen them do is hunt their own property on all of their TV shows these days.   I prefer meateater cause he isnt normally doing a guided hunt in a box blind so for me its more interesting (not that i dont hunt this way some too and enjoy it, just like to listen to some adventures) and he always throws in some cooking/butchering.  Used to enjoy "on your own" as well but cant seem to find it all that often.  

but all of it is better than talk radio or top 40.  

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"it's pointless for humans to paint scenes of nature when they can go outside and stand in it"- Ron Swanson

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I listen to the Wild Huntsman as he's NY based and talks to a lot of outdoor writers.

https://www.thewildhuntsman.com/episodes

Also listen to The Reverend Hunter who's an acquaintance of mine. His focus is on spirituality and hunting.

https://reverendhunter.com/podcastepisodes

Used to listen to Kifarucast but the host just started to grate on me a little. Still some good info there though.

https://kifaru.net/kifarucast/

Meateater drives me crazy as they just ramble on and generally sound like idiots.

For fun I listen to Smartless which is Will Arnett, Jason Bateman and Sean Hayes busting each other's balls as they talk to a celeb guest.

https://www.smartless.com/

 

I've done a few podcasts but strangely, I've done more live radio this year. Was just asked to be on a show next week here in Mexico to talk about my search to track down one particluar tarpon guide in the Yucatan. 

 

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MeatEater is a portfolio company that has masterfully captured a large portion of outdoors market. Its video content has effectively become advertisement for the gear sold by companies they now own. Some call this selling out. It doesn’t bother me so long as I continue to be entertained and informed by the stuff they put out. They recruited the editor in chief of Field and Stream, Antony Licata, but it looks like he’s no longer with MeatEater. What happened there?

I really wanted to like Beau Martonik’s and Pertnear’s podcasts as they’re from the region but they were impossible to listen to. Podcasting and interviewing are skills that need to be deliberately crafted and the material properly produced. These guys just ramble about nothing. It’s painful. A lot of the MeatEater podcast are equally ill-produced but the content is much better. I like Cal’s Week in Review and Bear Grease (not render):

https://www.themeateater.com/listen/cals-week-in-review

https://www.themeateater.com/listen/bear-grease

My favorite podcast continues to be Mike Pesca’s The Gist. It’s an excellent example of what a podcast should be:

https://www.mikepesca.com/thegist

I enjoy Tom Rosenbauer’s Orvis Fly-Fishing Podcast. It’s pretty slow and there’s a lot of dead space in his interviews but, as a new fly fisherman, I really like the content:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-orvis-fly-fishing-podcast/id278930814 

The Mill House Podcast and Wild Fed Podcasts are also worthwhile:

https://www.millhousepodcast.com/media

https://www.wild-fed.com/podcast

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1 hour ago, Versatile Hunter said:

MeatEater is a portfolio company that has masterfully captured a large portion of outdoors market. Its video content has effectively become advertisement for the gear sold by companies they now own. Some call this selling out. It doesn’t bother me so long as I continue to be entertained and informed by the stuff they put out. They recruited the editor in chief of Field and Stream, Antony Licata, but it looks like he’s no longer with MeatEater. What happened there?

I really wanted to like Beau Martonik’s and Pertnear’s podcasts as they’re from the region but they were impossible to listen to. Podcasting and interviewing are skills that need to be deliberately crafted and the material properly produced. These guys just ramble about nothing. It’s painful. A lot of the MeatEater podcast are equally ill-produced but the content is much better. I like Cal’s Week in Review and Bear Grease (not render):

https://www.themeateater.com/listen/cals-week-in-review

https://www.themeateater.com/listen/bear-grease

My favorite podcast continues to be Mike Pesca’s The Gist. It’s an excellent example of what a podcast should be:

https://www.mikepesca.com/thegist

I enjoy Tom Rosenbauer’s Orvis Fly-Fishing Podcast. It’s pretty slow and there’s a lot of dead space in his interviews but, as a new fly fisherman, I really like the content:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-orvis-fly-fishing-podcast/id278930814 

The Mill House Podcast and Wild Fed Podcasts are also worthwhile:

https://www.millhousepodcast.com/media

https://www.wild-fed.com/podcast

The part about MeatEater that gets me the most isn’t even the sell out part, it’s the who he sold out to, willingly, and then the contrived scripting of topics to create discord like a Jerry Springer show writer. The one I recall the most was the split of brothers on there needing to be less hunters in the woods. It was as if this was written by a Hollywood production and played up. It just comes across poorly. They do a great job at the marketing and storylines of their documentary work, and they’re good business people.

But, seeing the difference between Kenyon then and now is a microcosm of the MeatEater impact. Part of what made Kenyon a followership was him being a young guy going it alone, taking the risk, and coming across genuine. He made mistakes, was relatable, and made trips out of state on his own, cutting teeth. Dan was on there, etc. With his sale and indoctrination into ME, he’s lost his differentiation and is now an everyday, regular salesman of hunting gear cloaked in marketing film and sounds. It is what it is though, he did what he thought was best for his career and family. I have to assume his audience has turned over significantly too as a result. Probably a different listener base. I’ve listened to 5-10 of his since 2020.

I actually enjoy the amateur component to a lot of podcasts - not the production side but the dialog. The BS back and forth comes with learnings I think. Reminds me of tribal knowledge where you’d gather at camp around the fire and tell stories and discuss different topics in hunting. 

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24 minutes ago, phade said:

The part about MeatEater that gets me the most isn’t even the sell out part, it’s the who he sold out to, willingly, and then the contrived scripting of topics to create discord like a Jerry Springer show writer. The one I recall the most was the split of brothers on there needing to be less hunters in the woods. It was as if this was written by a Hollywood production and played up. It just comes across poorly. They do a great job at the marketing and storylines of their documentary work, and they’re good business people.

But, seeing the difference between Kenyon then and now is a microcosm of the MeatEater impact. Part of what made Kenyon a followership was him being a young guy going it alone, taking the risk, and coming across genuine. He made mistakes, was relatable, and made trips out of state on his own, cutting teeth. Dan was on there, etc. With his sale and indoctrination into ME, he’s lost his differentiation and is now an everyday, regular salesman of hunting gear cloaked in marketing film and sounds. It is what it is though, he did what he thought was best for his career and family. I have to assume his audience has turned over significantly too as a result. Probably a different listener base. I’ve listened to 5-10 of his since 2020.

I actually enjoy the amateur component to a lot of podcasts - not the production side but the dialog. The BS back and forth comes with learnings I think. Reminds me of tribal knowledge where you’d gather at camp around the fire and tell stories and discuss different topics in hunting. 

I think you've got the sibling argument wrong. That wasn't a scripted drama, it was a terrible miscalculation by MeatEater. Steve's brother appears to be on the spectrum and the position he takes is unreasonable and the way he argues it is unbearable. They probably thought it would make for good debate but instead it exposed the usual petty array of family resentments.

I wasn't very familiar with Kenyon but yeah he probably took a more lucrative and secure business route. I like minimally produced conversations when they're between interesting people. A bunch of drunks yelling at each other is obnoxious....

 

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10 hours ago, phade said:

I still cannot fathom how people like MeaEater stuff that much. Don’t like the fact they sold out to who they did and some of their antic/positions come off as set up to create friction like an 80/90s daytime talk show. Staged. Kenyon’s had a similar slide in quality IMO since selling out to MeatEater.  I will say that their documentary and storytelling is good but the content of podcasts and regular episodes is hard to believe in.

Working Class has kind of had that same slide but to a lesser degree with Drury. I completely understand the business angle so it is what it is. I can still listen to their regular episodes. They seem like a good group of guys.

Kenyons’s older stuff and WCB prior to 2022 is really good to listen to IMO.

The Fall Podcast with Arron is good. I was on one of his earlier episodes. He is gaining momentum and had good industry connections. The risk is the same. At some point you either need to diversify or align with a larger brand to carry the numbers long term. But for now is he doing well.

Pertnear is local to NY. Nice guys.

I traveled a lot for work 2015 through 2020, gone 1-3 weeks a month. Podcasts are nice for that travel time.

I have not listened to a lot of podcasts from various people. So I don’t have a lot to compare to. I have listened to almost every episode of The Fall Podcast though. I agree, I think Aaron does a good job. Not sure how I found his podcast but listened to the latest episode at the time and likes it so much I started listening from the beginning. Have about 15 left to be current. Listened to your episode then I guess.  

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2 hours ago, left field said:

Matt Rinella. Here is the original essay: https://freerangeamerican.us/matt-rinella-unfollowing-hunting-social-media/

His point is not unreasonable - hunters ... get the hell off of social media, but it was so poorly argued that it got lost in the stupid.

His position went well beyond commentary on the harms of social media (on the podcast, I’ll read the essay). He came across as an entitled prick 

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