New scope shopping.

[Buckmaster7600]

I’m looking for a scope to put on the new woodman muzzloader for use in the Catskills where there is antler restriction.  I want low powered and lightweight. 
 

I don’t want an illumined reticle, I want a regular duplex reticle I hate any other lines in a reticle.
 

From a rainy day of research it seems like my only option is a Leupold vx3 1-5. 
 

Who wants a 20+ oz scope on a deer rifle? Does anyone really use the bdc reticles? I’m perfectly capable of holding a little high if needed. Does anyone actually like an illuminated reticle? I own a few both Leupold and trijicon and think it’s a complete gimmick with no practical advantage. Low power scopes seem to be a rage but all the options seem to have too much going on and become very heavy, most double the 10 ounces that the Leupold weighs. 

Edited August 9 by Buckmaster7600

[sbuff]

To me I'll never buy a scope with a bdc,biggest gimmick going (to me) I've been changing my muzzleloaders out to peep sites . Most shots are well under 50 yards for me. I had an illuminated rec and I'd got back if I bought another scope . It would come in handy with 1/2 before and after sunset in the swamps I hunt .

Edited August 9 by sbuff

[Buckmaster7600]

32 minutes ago, sbuff said:

To me I'll never buy a scope with a bdc,biggest gimmick going (to me) I've been changing my muzzleloaders out to peep sites . Most shots are well under 50 yards for me. I had an illuminated rec and I'd got back if I bought another scope . It would come in handy with 1/2 before and after sunset in the swamps I hunt .

I hunt mostly with peeps myself but having to count points in the Catskills made me realize the necessity of a scope. It cost me a very nice buck last year while tracking. He was only 30yds but by the time I got my binoculars on him and made sure he had 3 on a side he was leaving. With a scope he was dead. 

[mowin]

What scopes are you thinking about?  Would help in others opinions. 

[9jNYstarkOH]

1 hour ago, Buckmaster7600 said:

I’m looking for a scope to put on the new woodman muzzloader for use in the Catskills where there is antler restriction.  I want low powered and lightweight. 
 

I don’t want an illumined reticle, I want a regular duplex reticle I hate any other lines in a reticle.
 

From a rainy day of research it seems like my only option is a Leupold vx3 1-5. 
 

Who wants a 20+ oz scope on a deer rifle? Does anyone really use the bdc reticles? I’m perfectly capable of holding a little high if needed. Does anyone actually like an illuminated reticle? I own a few both Leupold and trijicon and think it’s a complete gimmick with no practical advantage. Low power scopes seem to be a rage but all the options seem to have too much going on and become very heavy, most double the 10 ounces that the Leupold weighs. 

Have you looked at the leupold 2-7 with the hunt plex reticle. 11 oz

[Buckmaster7600]

6 minutes ago, 9jNYstarkOH said:

Have you looked at the leupold 2-7 with the hunt plex reticle. 11 oz

I ordered the vx3i 1-5. I was just surprised that it was the only option I had in what was once a very popular style scope.

[phade]

I have a BDC scope on my H&R and it’s lights out. It’s calibrated to that length barrel and the Accutips. Sighted in at 50 as per directions. 100 yard center crosshair - dead nuts. Next one at 150 - dead nuts. 200 which is the last line and in the kill zone. Bushnell DOA. I’ve gotten a few freehand kills at 160 yards with it - and done so with members here as witness. And I’m not a great shooter at all.

I feel like in most rifles they are not as helpful given point of aim likelihood when hunting whitetails. But on that slug gun…impressive.

[Buckmaster7600]

8 hours ago, phade said:

I have a BDC scope on my H&R and it’s lights out. It’s calibrated to that length barrel and the Accutips. Sighted in at 50 as per directions. 100 yard center crosshair - dead nuts. Next one at 150 - dead nuts. 200 which is the last line and in the kill zone. Bushnell DOA. I’ve gotten a few freehand kills at 160 yards with it - and done so with members here as witness. And I’m not a great shooter at all.

I feel like in most rifles they are not as helpful given point of aim likelihood when hunting whitetails. But on that slug gun…impressive.

My 20ga shooting the same bullet is zeroed at 150, never goes above or below line of site by more than 3” getting there, so no holdover/under necessary. Hold 8-10” high at 200, crosshairs are still on fur.
 

if the bdc works for you awesome. I’ll take a proper zero that requires zero thinking in the heat of the moment for 95% of my shots. Every scoped gun I own  is zeroed for maximum effective range without and holdover. The only problem with it is that you have to shoot them at all those ranges, it doesn’t work for the guys with a 100yd range.

[Belo]

i've owned or have like 4 or 5 leupolds a few vortex and a couple nikons. Leupolds are my favorite by far. They just keep on rocking on no matter the beating they take or the conditions. 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Too bad it has an illuminated reticle, the zeiss is a legit option. You will like the Leupold no doubt. 

[Versatile Hunter]

27 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

Too bad it has an illuminated reticle, the zeiss is a legit option. You will like the Leupold no doubt. 

Why don’t you like illuminated?

[2BuckBizCT]

8 hours ago, Buckmaster7600 said:

if the bdc works for you awesome. I’ll take a proper zero that requires zero thinking in the heat of the moment for 95% of my shots. Every scoped gun I own  is zeroed for maximum effective range without and holdover. The only problem with it is that you have to shoot them at all those ranges, it doesn’t work for the guys with a 100yd range.

Same. I would hate the clutter of multiple lines in a scope. I'd rather know i can aim dead on up to X yards and hold higher for Y yards. It's worked great for out west for mule deer and antelope at long ranges. Probably why i use a single pin for bowhunting too.

[Buckmaster7600]

1 hour ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

Too bad it has an illuminated reticle, the zeiss is a legit option. You will like the Leupold no doubt. 

They’re double the weight of the leupold, no thanks.

Edited August 9 by Buckmaster7600

[Buckmaster7600]

1 hour ago, Versatile Hunter said:

Why don’t you like illuminated?

I own a few and I have found s zero practical purpose for them. I wish leupold still made a vx-5 without it.

[sbuff]

Looks like the Leupold is the lightest too , should be a sweet set up on the woodman .