mowin Posted December 16, 2024 Posted December 16, 2024 (edited) So I missed this afternoon. Ranged at 210. Using BH209 100g by volume pushing a 300g Hornady XTP. I'm about 1" high at 100, but my club only has a 100y range, so I realistically don't know how much drop I'm dealing with at 200. Hopefully going to a different club tomorrow that has a 200 range and figure things out. Edited December 16, 2024 by mowin cervidchasers, Bucksnbows and grampy 3
Moog5050 Posted December 16, 2024 Posted December 16, 2024 I would guess 15 inches. Kinda assuming a 100yd 0. With 250g. So no idea if 300g with a 1” high 0 is similar but maybe. mowin, grampy and cervidchasers 3
grampy Posted December 16, 2024 Posted December 16, 2024 I'm curious of the range with these newer black powder guns. I really don't know? I plan to see in the spring when I get to the range with mine. To test out to 200 yards. My old TC Thunderhawk Shadow, would shoot a 240 grain sabot, using 100 grains of T7 to 200 yards. With a 100 yard zero, it would drop 13 inches at 200. mowin 1
mowin Posted December 16, 2024 Author Posted December 16, 2024 18 minutes ago, Moog5050 said: How did you aim? It's a ML scope, so main x-hair and next dot down were on fur. I could have pulled, but I don't think so. I was sitting and locked in a bog pod.
mowin Posted December 16, 2024 Author Posted December 16, 2024 15 minutes ago, grampy said: I'm curious of the range with these newer black powder guns. I really don't know? I plan to see in the spring when I get to the range with mine. To test out to 200 yards. My old TC Thunderhawk Shadow, would shoot a 240 grain sabot, using 100 grains of T7 to 200 yards. With a 100 yard zero, it would drop 13 inches at 200. Here's where I'm at.. T7 is 100g by weight. I'm using BH209 by volume. I'm assuming, 100g by volume is LESS than 100g in weight? Maybe someone can confirm.. if so, I might be under power for a 300g pill. grampy 1
mowin Posted December 16, 2024 Author Posted December 16, 2024 1 minute ago, Lawdwaz said: Wind? Light
Moog5050 Posted December 16, 2024 Posted December 16, 2024 15 minutes ago, mowin said: It's a ML scope, so main x-hair and next dot down were on fur. I could have pulled, but I don't think so. I was sitting and locked in a bog pod. Main x on fur is likely low miss. Check it out and let us know. And yes 100g volume 209 is less than 100g by weight of 209. 100g by weight is not advisable. No idea compared to bp. mowin 1
Larry Posted December 16, 2024 Posted December 16, 2024 Without knowing how fast the the bullet is going there is no way you can tell the bullet drop at any range. Just because there's a velocity one the box or the load data. Barrel length primer and weather you weigh the charge or go by volume. with a muzzleloader the standard deviation is much higher than with a modern cartridge. You need some kind of average velocity. There are other things to take into consideration but you need velocity first or you're just taking a WAG.
Redneck4Life Posted December 16, 2024 Posted December 16, 2024 I'd never shoot 200 with a muzzleloader. I've lost my last 2 with muzzleloader. We recovered one 3 weeks later coming in on 3 legs to bait pile my buddy had getting ready to set up drives. Perfect shot but deer made it 3 weeks evading coyotes and shot by another hunter. I retired the muzzleloader after losing 2. Both deer were walking or stepping of 4 wheeler looking at me. Shot by my traditions magnum. With 250 grain Thompson center shockwaves. Nomad 1
mowin Posted December 16, 2024 Author Posted December 16, 2024 8 minutes ago, Redneck4Life said: I'd never shoot 200 with a muzzleloader. I've lost my last 2 with muzzleloader. We recovered one 3 weeks later coming in on 3 legs to bait pile my buddy had getting ready to set up drives. Perfect shot but deer made it 3 weeks evading coyotes and shot by another hunter. I retired the muzzleloader after losing 2. Both deer were walking or stepping of 4 wheeler looking at me. Shot by my traditions magnum. With 250 grain Thompson center shockwaves. When I shot T7, I was confident at 200, and have taken several at that range. This is my first yr with this bullet and powder combo. I only had time to shoot at 100y. My mistake was not confirming. I will know more tomorrow, hopefully. Redneck4Life and grampy 2
Redneck4Life Posted December 16, 2024 Posted December 16, 2024 My old hawkin shoots 100 grains black powder and homemade 375 grain lead buffalo bullets. Old school I'd have to take pics for people to see. I wouldn't shoot a deer past 50 to 75 with that mowin 1
mowin Posted December 16, 2024 Author Posted December 16, 2024 4 minutes ago, Redneck4Life said: My old hawkin shoots 100 grains black powder and homemade 375 grain lead buffalo bullets. Old school I'd have to take pics for people to see. I wouldn't shoot a deer past 50 to 75 with that Two completely different platforms. Like a smoothbore shotgun and a .270 different, lol.
2BuckBizCT Posted December 16, 2024 Posted December 16, 2024 try a ballistics calculator. I don't have the ML card in front of me that my Dad gave me when I borrowed his, but it was like dead on at 100yds and 5" low at 150yds. I don't recall beyond that, but Moog is probably in the ballpark 12-18" mowin 1
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