Cabela's $200 off Excalibur Micro Mag 340 Crossbow Package

[nywaw]

https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/excalibur-micro-mag-340-crossbow-package

[2BuckBizCT]

I haven't bought an xbow since Excal Vortex in 2011, but the rule was 200lb or less. is that still the NY rule? making this one illegal?

[mowin]

4 minutes ago, 2BuckBizCT said:

I haven't bought an xbow since Excal Vortex in 2011, but the rule was 200lb or less. is that still the NY rule? making this one illegal?

Yes, technically illegal.

My Revx has no listed draw WT.  It's listed as 16lbs of effort to draw the bow, making it legal in NY per talking to DEC. 

[2BuckBizCT]

1 hour ago, mowin said:

Yes, technically illegal.

My Revx has no listed draw WT.  It's listed as 16lbs of effort to draw the bow, making it legal in NY per talking to DEC. 

Nice. I haven't shot mine since 2019, but I remember when I bought it I got 200lbs (NY max) and my Dad got the Ibex 175lbs.

[Robhuntandfish]

says its out of stock 

[nywaw]

Oh wow, I didn't know NY had a maximum, that's weird.  Great call out there @2BuckBizCT!

[nywaw]

Just now, Robhuntandfish said:

says its out of stock 

Must have sold out already, they were there earlier.

[RocNy Sporter]

If you're considering an Excalibur or a compound crossbow, take a look at what Wyvern Creations has.  I haven't looked but I'd be willingly to bet his price probably beats whatever Cabela's has to offer.

Last I checked, his shipping is free and his inventory of top crossbow equipment and accessories is extensive. He is also a wealth of information, if you have questions and are doing research.

I dealt with him several years ago when I purchased my Excalibur Matrix.  I got the best price and was set up with bolts that were tested by them and determined to be the best match for that particular crossbow(price for the bolts was also the excellent).

A month later I called to order a case for it.  He told me it was on sale for approximately half price, although it was not listed on the web site for sale.  Now, my order could have been filled at the regular price and I wouldn't have known any difference, but he was honest with me.

That's my experience with Wyvern and I highly recommended you check out the website. Best of luck to anyone researching a new crossbow.

[mowin]

23 minutes ago, RocNy Sporter said:

If you're considering an Excalibur or a compound crossbow, take a look at what Wyvern Creations has.  I haven't looked but I'd be willingly to bet his price probably beats whatever Cabela's has to offer.

Last I checked, his shipping is free and his inventory of top crossbow equipment and accessories is extensive. He is also a wealth of information, if you have questions and are doing research.

I dealt with him several years ago when I purchased my Excalibur Matrix.  I got the best price and was set up with bolts that were tested by them and determined to be the best match for that particular crossbow(price for the bolts was also the excellent).

A month later I called to order a case for it.  He told me it was on sale for approximately half price, although it was not listed on the web site for sale.  Now, my order could have been filled at the regular price and I wouldn't have known any difference, but he was honest with me.

That's my experience with Wyvern and I highly recommended you check out the website. Best of luck to anyone researching a new crossbow.

Wyvern is fantastic.  Bought my Excalibur Revx from him.  Got a dozen matching spined bolts, field tips, extra string/stringer and a upgraded scope for the same price what most places were selling the factory package for.  

[Belo]

I find it interesting how a lot of the folks on this site and the old were super anal about when you tag a deer (not if), when daylight and sunset is, if you're wearing enough orange but the then dismiss the crossbow regs like they're just a suggestion.

I'm not saying they make sense, just an observation

[RocNy Sporter]

3 hours ago, Belo said:

I find it interesting how a lot of the folks on this site and the old were super anal about when you tag a deer (not if), when daylight and sunset is, if you're wearing enough orange but the then dismiss the crossbow regs like they're just a suggestion.

I'm not saying they make sense, just an observation

OK, I'll guess this, as I'm not a mind reader into how others justify their actions. It most likely comes down to two things - 1. safety - which would apply to the blaze orange thing and the daylight/sunset time, and which could imperil a life if not followed.  Also,2. the practicality from the DEC standpoint of strict enforcement of crossbow regs.   I'm thinking that most DEC enforcement is focused on making sure hunters and the public are safe, and animals are not unlawfully taken, point #1 and could not care less about strictly enforcing crossbow measurement/weight regulations.

The DEC is most likely not going out of the way to pursue someone with an out of regulation crossbow limb measurement, any more than a trooper on the Thruway is looking to pull over someone going 66 mph.  Now you may be one of the handful that goes 65 mph and question the morality of those going faster; but most of those going faster are not going to be concerned until they approach 79 mph, as that is where the practical line is drawn for pursuit and enforcement by most state troopers. 

Safety - point #1, becomes something when someone goes 79+ mph.  Practicality, point #2, is where those responsible for enforcing the laws determine what makes sense to pursue.

Fortunately, people can't deputize themselves to be morality police and enforce laws.  We can only hope that those that are actually supposed to be enforcing the laws can actually focus on allocating their time in the best way they can to keep us safe.  

That's a winding explanation to your musings.

 

[Belo]

 

1 minute ago, RocNy Sporter said:

OK, I'll guess this, as I'm not a mind reader into how others justify their actions. It most likely comes down to two things - 1. safety - which would apply to the blaze orange thing and the daylight/sunset time, and which could imperil a life if not followed.  Also,2. the practicality from the DEC standpoint of strict enforcement of crossbow regs.   I'm thinking that most DEC enforcement is focused on making sure hunters and the public are safe, and animals are not unlawfully taken, point #1 and could not care less about strictly enforcing crossbow measurement/weight regulations.

The DEC is most likely not going out of the way to pursue someone with an out of regulation crossbow limb measurement, any more than a trooper on the Thruway is looking to pull over someone going 66 mph.  Now you may be one of the handful that goes 65 mph and question the morality of those going faster; but most of those going faster are not going to be concerned until they approach 79 mph, as that is where the practical line is drawn for pursuit and enforcement by most state troopers. 

Safety - point #1, becomes something when someone goes 79+ mph.  Practicality, point #2, is where those responsible for enforcing the laws determine what makes sense to pursue.

Fortunately, people can't deputize themselves to be morality police and enforce laws.  We can only hope that those that are actually supposed to be enforcing the laws can actually focus on allocating their time in the best way they can to keep us safe.  

That's a winding explanation to your musings.

 

counter. The laws used to be sunlight/sunset and now they're -30/+30. Blaze orange was never a law and now is. 

[RocNy Sporter]

15 minutes ago, Belo said:

counter. The laws used to be sunlight/sunset and now they're -30/+30. Blaze orange was never a law and now is. 

Not going back and forth.

 You questioned the ethical reasoning of some who were dismissive of crossbow regs.  I offered up a guess regarding the reasoning.  The daylight issue was set by someone at the state level who determined that it was still safe outside the published sunlight/sunset times (does it make sense?,  I wonder as well) and the blaze orange rule is one that definitely makes sense and has proven to improve safety.  We can come up with other things that don't make sense to me; but are the rules, such as allowing rifles in what used to be shot gun areas.  Someone responsible for setting the regs. determined that there was a reason for these.

My point was that safety regs are more at the forefront of enforcement efforts vs. crossbow regs. that are not as concerning to most.

I'll leave it there.

[Belo]

38 minutes ago, RocNy Sporter said:

and the blaze orange rule is one that definitely makes sense and has proven to improve safety. 

respectfully, this is where you're incorrect. Hunting safety accidents were at an all time low when this law was put into place. Many if not all hunter accidents are self-inflicted or falls. Many if not all the recent hunters killing other people were not other hunters but a lady walking her dog or someone hiking and that's why this is asinine. I could hike on my own property wearing a deer costume legally, but if I MYSELF was hunting, I'd need an orange hat... I need an orange hat inside my enclosed blind, I need it on my own private property and I need it 25' up in a tree, where in all my years of hunting there has never been a deer up there with me. If they wanted to pass a law like they have in Mississippi where hunters must wear blaze orange on public land when 12' or lower to the ground and not inside an enclosed blind I'd be all for it. Hell I've always warn orange when walking even on private land. But in the wake of record low safety numbers it's just as silly as a crossbow minimum limb width and max poundage yet some members here will argue it's not. 

Edited January 8 by Belo

[RocNy Sporter]

OK I get it, you like to argue.   My original point was and still is - safety regs are more at the forefront of enforcement efforts vs. crossbow regs. that are not as concerning to most.

To your nit picking, regarding blaze orange - I can cite specific instances where hunters have shot other hunters because they mistakenly thought it was a deer, i.e. they were in camouflage and moving.  Can I 100% say that would not have happened if they were wearing blaze orange, no - but it's silly to think otherwise.  Can/will one person be saved because of blaze orange, of course yes.  Is any crossbow reg. at the forefront of safety enforcement no.

This discussion has gone off the rails.  No one is looking for you or anyone else to be sporting blaze orange up in a tree LOL. I take it off when I feel that I'm not in harm's way, up in a tree.  There is zero chance DEC is searching for someone up in a tree wearing orange.  Walking out of the woods to a parking area you may run into DEC and most likely you will get a warning to be smarter and safer. 

Again, safety regs are more at the forefront of enforcement efforts vs. crossbow regs. that are not as concerning to most. I'll let you take it from there as I'll finally let it go.