This guy.

[G-man]

This 3 pt is now going to be 5 next year was a spike for 3 years and  made it to a 3pt last season..  obviously made it thru season again and will be my #1 target next year...

 

 

[Spysar]

Interesting, how do you know it's the same deer? Seems odd to be a spike all that time...Good luck in getting him

[G-man]

1 hour ago, Spysar said:

Interesting, how do you know it's the same deer? Seems odd to be a spike all that time...Good luck in getting him

Have photos  of  him and has a nice distinctive ear tear.  Hes living proof not all bucks become big booners.

[grampy]

Very cool buck!!!!  I really love old bucks!

And it doesn't matter to me what they carry on their head.

[f3cbboy]

i shot a fork buck this year on opening morning and it had no bottom teeth.  means he has worn them down over the years right?

[GreeneHunter]

35 minutes ago, f3cbboy said:

i shot a fork buck this year on opening morning and it had no bottom teeth.  means he has worn them down over the years right?

Or he was from Kentucky ?  LOL

[G-man]

2 hours ago, f3cbboy said:

i shot a fork buck this year on opening morning and it had no bottom teeth.  means he has worn them down over the years right?

Molars yes

front teeth can be lost easily

[Rusty]

This is a perfect example of why antler restrictions are no good.  Deer like this, with undesirable genetics, are protected and pass their inferior genes on for many many years.  Meanwhile, bucks with good genetics are shot at a young age and pass their desirable genes on at a much lower rate.  It's called high grading.  

[G-man]

21 minutes ago, Rusty said:

This is a perfect example of why antler restrictions are no good.  Deer like this, with undesirable genetics, are protected and pass their inferior genes on for many many years.  Meanwhile, bucks with good genetics are shot at a young age and pass their desirable genes on at a much lower rate.  It's called high grading.  

Ive said that for years especially in high hunter density areas.  Id rather leave a 1.5 year old 8 pt and take a spike  if thats the only tag i have.   Antlers are a bell curve and if a deer is at bottom of bell curve  it remains at bottom of curve the next year and the next and the next.  Can a spike make 140 in.. maybe  but compared the same age buck that started as an 8pt and  it maybe 180... same age..  

[Spysar]

On 2/10/2023 at 11:25 AM, G-man said:

Have photos  of  him and has a nice distinctive ear tear.  Hes living proof not all bucks become big booners.

Let's see the pics.

[lucky118]

20 hours ago, Rusty said:

This is a perfect example of why antler restrictions are no good.  Deer like this, with undesirable genetics, are protected and pass their inferior genes on for many many years.  Meanwhile, bucks with good genetics are shot at a young age and pass their desirable genes on at a much lower rate.  It's called high grading.  

More than likely he has broke bones in the past. Probably  got hit by a car or has some disease. Not genetic.

[G-man]

1 hour ago, Spysar said:

Let's see the pics.

They are on old site .velvet and hrd horn

[Spysar]

I'm not on an old site..... am I supposed to search to web to find this ? I thought it would be cool to see the pics.

[G-man]

10 hours ago, Spysar said:

I'm not on an old site..... am I supposed to search to web to find this ? I thought it would be cool to see the pics.

Ill have to go to old site  and down load them when i get a chance to post here

[treeguy]

Idk. Body characteristics don't appear to be that of an older buck. Way up north here it's an easy call on deer over 3 when you have a pile of pictures to look at. No back sag. No belly sag. No brisket sag. No big Roman nose. Maybe the ear tear is common in your area and it's not the same buck. Deer find crossing areas in old barb wire fencing all the time and I'd say the chances of an ear tear on multiple deer are greater than that deer being 5+   

 

 

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