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21 minutes ago, Rusty said:

This is a perfect example of why antler restrictions are no good.  Deer like this, with undesirable genetics, are protected and pass their inferior genes on for many many years.  Meanwhile, bucks with good genetics are shot at a young age and pass their desirable genes on at a much lower rate.  It's called high grading.  

Ive said that for years especially in high hunter density areas.  Id rather leave a 1.5 year old 8 pt and take a spike  if thats the only tag i have.   Antlers are a bell curve and if a deer is at bottom of bell curve  it remains at bottom of curve the next year and the next and the next.  Can a spike make 140 in.. maybe  but compared the same age buck that started as an 8pt and  it maybe 180... same age..  

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20 hours ago, Rusty said:

This is a perfect example of why antler restrictions are no good.  Deer like this, with undesirable genetics, are protected and pass their inferior genes on for many many years.  Meanwhile, bucks with good genetics are shot at a young age and pass their desirable genes on at a much lower rate.  It's called high grading.  

More than likely he has broke bones in the past. Probably  got hit by a car or has some disease. Not genetic.

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Idk. Body characteristics don't appear to be that of an older buck. Way up north here it's an easy call on deer over 3 when you have a pile of pictures to look at. No back sag. No belly sag. No brisket sag. No big Roman nose. Maybe the ear tear is common in your area and it's not the same buck. Deer find crossing areas in old barb wire fencing all the time and I'd say the chances of an ear tear on multiple deer are greater than that deer being 5+   

 

 

Where's biz, he's the expert 

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11 hours ago, treeguy said:

Idk. Body characteristics don't appear to be that of an older buck. Way up north here it's an easy call on deer over 3 when you have a pile of pictures to look at. No back sag. No belly sag. No brisket sag. No big Roman nose. Maybe the ear tear is common in your area and it's not the same buck. Deer find crossing areas in old barb wire fencing all the time and I'd say the chances of an ear tear on multiple deer are greater than that deer being 5+   

Where's biz, he's the expert 

I'm here! But I always defer to the person's whose land it is as they know their herd the best. I remember @G-man posting an old spike on the prior forum. The pics in this thread are January, so they may be deceiving. I get pics of bucks that have bodies that look totally different from 10/1 to 11/15- figure 25% weight loss during rut and that turns a 160lb dressed buck into 120lbs.

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