G-man Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Trying to get approval for mass pollination from epa. We did get a recent news that approval is not going to be in time for unpermitted pollination this season. This is what Andy Newhouse recently wrote when the question came up: "I'll add an update from ESF: This news is coming from the EPA - they are saying their delays are due to understaffing, and also presumably because this is a completely unique product that's unlike anything they've reviewed before. Their reviews are proceeding, and they've unofficially hinted that they might be done by late fall of this year, but they haven't given us a firm date and we're still trying to sort out details and conditions. We'll share more details when we learn them!" Basically why this is not as early as we had hoped with the new timeline, it is currently not truly measurably later than earlier how long we were told by regulators it could end up taking. If the approval does happen around that timeframe, it won't end up impacting the distribution of Darling 58 nuts from SUNY ESF or other TACF involved chapters (or the national organization) currently engaged in controlled pollination this season under permit much in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belo Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 G-man can you link me to what you're discussing? I've read a lot about chestnuts lately and thought the american chestnut was no longer viable due to the blight? Is this a new blight resistant strain? My understanding is that most of what we have now are Chinese hybrids. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" Luke 6:31 and Matthew 7:12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escpen Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 I believe ESF has developed a new "strain" of American Chestnut using genetic modification techniques. Would be great to have American Chestnuts on the landscape again, even if it's only for our kids and future generations to benefit from. blackbeltbill and Belo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-man Posted June 20, 2023 Author Share Posted June 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Belo said: G-man can you link me to what you're discussing? I've read a lot about chestnuts lately and thought the american chestnut was no longer viable due to the blight? Is this a new blight resistant strain? My understanding is that most of what we have now are Chinese hybrids. Esf has a genetically modifyed pure american that is 100% viable . But to mass distribute it they need fda approval. This keeps all the characteristics of 100% american and is blight free. The american chestnut foundation in ny is promary driver behind this the national level is stillattempting back crosses that are marginal at best. Herb darling out of buffalo wa huge supposrter of esf in its research and thus the new strain is named after him was the 58th attempt at gene splicing for resistance. This is huge as results could save the ash tree from emerald ash borer and maples from asian longhorn beatle. As well as elm trees from dutch elm. Belo, Red, Rusty and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-man Posted June 20, 2023 Author Share Posted June 20, 2023 https://www.esf.edu/chestnut/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escpen Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) https://www.syracuse.com/outdoors/2023/06/a-cny-scientists-work-might-change-the-world-but-he-might-not-live-long-enough-to-see-it-happen.html Edited June 23, 2023 by escpen G-man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbeltbill Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I used to read alot on the history of the chestnut. Some writers put the Population of the Wild Turkey at 10 million plus before the damn blight killed most of the absolutely huge Beautiful chestnuts with their enormous nut harvest. Enough for people and animals alike from just 1 mature chestnut. The white oak acorns is a poor substitute for chestnuts.. Take The Multiple Use Area Challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Next time you’re up here stop at toadflax nursery it’s off exit 17 on rt9. They’ll have exactly what you need and all the knowledge you can ask for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucksnbows Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 I look forward to the eventual reintroduction of American chestnuts. The land I manage for a buddy and hunt in Sparta, NJ had a well documented 90% coverage of chestnuts. Today, it is primarily an oak/hickory forest. It’s amazing to think that 9 of every 10 trees was a mast producing chestnut. And this is our fourth straight year with precious little to no acorn mast production. Late frosts and droughts have been brutal of late. "A sinking fly is closer to Hell" - Anonymous https://www.troutscapes.com https://nativefishcoalition.org/national-board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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